Should domestic helpers be given permanent residency? (closed)

Hong Kong High Court recently ruled that domestic helpers who have been living in Hong Kong for a least seven years have the right to apply for permanent residency (in other words, they would be treated the same as other workers, like myself, who come to Hong Kong from other countries).

This would have a big impact on Hong Kong, with a large number of people suddenly becoming eligible for permanent residency. The government plans to appeal, and there is the possibility that if the government loses the appeal, it will refer to case to Beijing to interpret the law and overrule Hong Kong’s own courts. What do you think of this issue?

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  1. I disagree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.
    Firstly, although domestic helpers work for Hong Kong people, and help them make their lives easier, they don’t do much benefit to Hong Kong. Many domestic helpers have worked in Hong Kong for more than 7 years already, if they all have the right to live permanently in Hong Kong, the population would rise really quickly.
    Secondly, permanent residents of Hong Kong have the right to receive a lot of welfare, such as applying for public hosing estates, getting welfare subsidy, receiving subsidized medical service etc.
    Hong Kong is a mountainous place with limited amount of flatland. The number of public housing estates are limited as well. Many Hong Kong people aren’t very wealthy, so they need to apply for public housing estates. However, if domestics helper have the right to abode and have the right to apply for public housing estate flats, the competition between Hong Kong people and the domestic helpers would become really large. Then, at last, domestic helpers would probably have more benefits than Hong Kong people, which in my opinion is unacceptable.
    Besides, the funds in Hong Kong government is limited as well. Many people in Hong Kong are not wealthy. Many of them are living under the poverty line. They also need help from the government. If the domestic helpers receive the right to abode and can be able to receive welfare, the amount of money given to Hong Kong people who are in need will be less. If so many people apply for welfare subsidy together, the funds of Hong Kong government will be used up one day, and would not be able to provide them to local Hong Kong people.
    Next, the locals from Hong Kong already cannot get a good standard of medical services now. They already face problems such as, long waiting time, low quality of medical treatment, insufficient space of hospital beds…… Besides, now, one doctor has to treat a large number of patients. If domestic helpers also request treatment, there wouldn’t be enough money for the government to buy enough amount of medical equipment to give the best quality of treatment to patients that need help. Therefore, the treatment quality will then decrease again, into a very low standard one.
    From all the factors above, I think that domestic helpers should not be given permanent residency, or it will lead to many difficulties and problems in Hong Kong.

  2. I strongly disagree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.

    First,as you know,the population of Hong Kong is continuously increasing. If the domestic helpers have the right of abode, more and more people will be given the welfare services. They can get higher salary and the job market will be competitive. They can apply for public housing estates and cause housing problems.Secondly,most of them just work to earn money for their family, which means they don’t have taken Hong Kong as their place of permanent residence and is not given the right of abode.

    In conclusion, I think giving the foreign domestic helpers permanent residency will increase the burden of the government.Therefore, I disagree towards the issue.

  3. I disagree to let right of abode to the domestic helper because it will increase the burden of the government. The domestic helper will take a lot of advantages than contribute in HK. Also, it will affect more our housing problem because we don’t have enough flats for our own citizens too. Moreover, the domestic helpers have no right of abode itself because they are only working for HK families and they need to go back home after the end of the contract. So, I really disagree that the domestic helpers have a right of abode and enjoys our residents’ rights.

  4. Currently, many people are discussing whether domestic helpers have the right to claim permanent residency after living in Hong Kong continuously for seven years. People have different opinions on this issue. Some people think that we should accept them to live in Hong Kong, but some people think that if they are allowed to live in Hong Kong, the living environment in Hong Kong will be too crowded. I will talk about my points of view in the following paragraphs.

    Firstly, I agree that everyone is equal before the law and we should not discriminate people who have different religion, culture, etc. However, I think that it is important to look at what the law really means in the case. When the domestic helpers first come to work in Hong Kong, they should understand their contract terms and puroses of stayng in Hong Kong, i.e. working in Hong Kong for an agreed period of time. They are provided with free meals, accomodation and medication by their employers. So they are different from other foreign workers in Hong Kong. In this way, they cannot enjoy the same rights as other foreign workers. Also, unlike most other people who are admitted to Hong Kong for employment, foreign domestic helpers are not entitled to become permanent residents after seven years’ residence. According to Section 2(4) of Hong Kong Immigration Ordinance, it excludes domestic helpers. So in my point of view, domestic helpers cannot claim for permanent residency after working in Hong Kong for seven years.

    Moreover, if the domestic helpers can claim for permanent residency, ten thousands of domestic helpers may choose to live in Hong Kong. The population in Hong Kong is already very high. Hong Kong may be burdened with the need to provide housing, healthcare, education, etc. If many families of domestic helpers suddenly immigrate to Hong Kong, Hong Kong government may not capable of affording the increasing cost of social welfare. Chaos in society may happen.

    Besides, if the children of domestic helpers are going to school in Hong Kong, Hong Kong may not have enough schools for them since there are already many children from mainland China whose parents are not Hong Kong residents. Hong Kong government has to spend more money to build schools and provide subsidises for them. Also, as the children of domestic helpers may not know how to speak Cantonese, the schools have to spend more time and human resources to help them. Teachers will have heavier workload and will affect the learning progress of the Hong Kong students. On the other hand, since the children of domestic helpers will have different culture from Hong Kong students, they may be bullied and discrimination may happen. They may be have a happy school life in Hong Kong. They will become problem children and crimes will increase.

    For the reasons mentioned above, I do not agree with the point that domestic helpers should have the right to claim for permanent residency after living in Hong Kong continuously for seven years.

    By Ava Cheung (from class 2T – 4)

  5. I don’t think that the domestic helpers should have the right of residency in Hong Kong, although some people may say that Hong Kong is a place with people came from all over the road, once the helpers are allowed to become residents after working here for 7 years, over hundred thousand helpers may became one of us. The government may suffer a large expenditure, many things are going to be competed between Hong Kongers and foreign helpers.
    Recently, there were three domestic helpers want to gain their right of residency as they have been worked here for years. If they succeed, most of the domestic helpers may have their right and bring all of their family members or relative to Hong Kong. In average to caculate, there would be over four hundred thousands of people came to Hong Kong, and most of them won’t pay any taxes, but consume most of the welfare and benefits like medical treatment, housing, education, etc. The situation would be absolutely horrible.
    In addition, the foreign domestic helper will become Hong Kong local workers, they may get their lowest working hours, which is at least twenty-eight dollars per hour, and they can still get more welfare like Comprehensive Social Security Assistance. Our benefits will then have to be shared to them.
    Especially like housing, our each piece of land are extremely valuable. Many poor people in Hong Kong are requesting for public housing, the competition is already very devastating. If the domestic helpers are allowed to become Hong Kong people, they will also look for public housing, land will be even more insufficient. The price of housing, no matter in public or private housing, will be increased.
    For education, if the domestic helper’s children are going to school, they may be left alone. The radical discrimination is going to happen in schools, then the children of helper’s ain’t going to feel happy in school, then why studying in Hong Kong but not in its original country? Also, government may spend part of the money for students to attend university, with the numeral increase of students, the place for enrollment or attendance is going to be narrowed and fewer gradually.
    It has no benefits at all, but a great, terrible loss for both local people and Hong Kong government. Then why there would be a party – the Civic party’s lawyers may help the domestic people to gain their right of abode. They are stupid, I hate the domestic helpers to get their right ( I am not racist ).
    By Kenneth Ng 2T (34)

  6. Should domestic helpers be given permanent residency? This question has been discussed by many Hong Kong people for a long time. Some people think that it is acceptable because Hong Kong is a society which contains many other countries people. Some say no because it will cause our government a big expenditure.

    In my opinion, I think that the domestic helpers should not be given permanent residency. It is because they are not born in Hong Kong and they just gain money in Hong Kong. If they only work in Hong Kong for seven years, they can have the right of abode; it is not fair to Hong Kong people! They can enjoy all the welfare of Hong Kong and many other domestic helpers will come to Hong Kong because this profitable chance. The population of Hong Kong must be exploded. Therefore, there are many problems may produce if they come to Hong Kong.

    First, the housing problems will be produced. Hong Kong is lack of flat land and there is not sufficient supply of housing. If they come to Hong Kong, the supply of housing will be tight and a lot of people cannot buy their houses.

    Now, there are not sufficient schools for Hong Kong children because of the mainland children. If the children of the domestic helper come to Hong Kong, the government needs to build more schools and spend more money to educate the children. Many students cannot go to the university because of the little enrollment supply. In addition, the competition between the students will become more intensive.
    This will also cause a racial discrimination, the children from the other countries may discriminated by Hong Kong students since their color of skin, their ascent and their cultural are different from us. Their children may not have friends and will become lonely.

    On the other hand, there are a lot of people unemployed in Hong Kong, if the mainland people or other foreigner come to Hong Kong, the percentage of unemployment will then be increased. The gap between the poor and the rich will become larger. If they could not find their work, how can they afford for their livings? They may need the government to offer a hand and this will create welfare problem. The financial of the government will downturn too. Overall, they are a big burden of the Hong Kong government.

    Therefore, I strongly disagree the domestic helpers have the right of abode of Hong Kong. I think the Hong Kong need to discuss and treat this incident seriously.

    By Brian 2T(33)

  7. I don’t think that domestic helper have the right of permanent residency because this would cause a lot of problem for Hong Kong.For example,financial,welfare,medical etc.
    The increase of population would increase the price of goods too.And the goods are not enough for all the people.Therefore,the poor family would have poorer life quality as they don’t have enough money tobuy goods.
    The increase of population would divide the welfare of Hong Kong.More and more people would enjoy the welfare of Hong Kong,the pressure of goverment would increase.
    The increase of population would increase the pressure of doctors,hospitals and nurses.Now,without the population of domestic helper,there is still not enough doctors.If domestic helper have the right of permanent residency,the shortage of doctors would inarese.
    As the problems are so serious and the goverment cannot solve it,domestic helper should not have the right of permanent residency

  8. I think domestic helper should not have the right of permanent residency because this will cause many problems in Hong Kong and slower the growth of Hong Kong.
    In finacial aspect, the price of goods and flats may rise because of increase of population in Hong Kong. Besides, Taxes in Hong Kong will be increased too, this may cause more poor family in Hong Kong.
    In welfare aspect, since the population in Hong Kong increase, the government will reduce the welfare because of too many people can enjoy it, this will cause Hong Kong citizens loss a lot of welfare.
    In medical aspect, this incident will increase the pressure in hospital since there are too many citizens, such as this may cause citizens cannot take or wait for a long time to take the surgery in public hospital or not enough places for pregnant woman. This may cause more medical accident happen in Hong Kong.
    Since the problem are serious and horrible, I don’t agree domestic helpers can have the right of permanent residency.
    By Alex Chan 2D (15)

  9. I don’t think domestic helpers can have the permanent residency.it’s because the domestic helpers are just went to Hong Kong to have a job although they have lived in Hong Kong for many years.if they have the permanent residency,they will cause some bad effect to Hong Kong people.It’s because that they will have the right to go to the public hospital be free.this may cause the hospital become a bigger burden.it is not just this problem,they will cause many problems such as the opportunity,the prices of houses will increase,etc.therefore,i don’t agree that domestic helpers can have the permanent residency.

    by john c. 2D (16)

  10. I don’t think the domestic helpers should have the right of permanent residency.Firstly, HK is a small place and can’t afford too many people living in.If the domestic helpers can live in HK,they will give a bad effect on HK’s living environment.Secondly, they may also affact the rights of the HK people.The working opportunity, studying opportunity of HK people will be less and the resources for HK people will also be fewer. Lastly, it may cause social polarize.Since the living of domestic helpers in HK will give a bad effect to HK people, HK people may discriminate them. The Mainland pregnant women is a good example.

  11. In my opinion,I strongly disagree domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.Now,Hong Kong High Court recently ruled that domestic helpers who have been living in Hong Kong for a least seven years have the right to apply for permanent residency (in other words, they would be treated the same as other workers, like myself, who come to Hong Kong from other countries).

    It must be another heavy hit for Hong Kong.Not long time ago,the Mainland people came.Now,the domestic helpers came to ask us to get the permanent residency.If we gave them the permanent residency,they will not only use our lands,but a lot of troubles they cause have to be fixed.When they have the permanent residency,they might think why they should work so hard?I can join the Comprehensive Social Security Assistance (CSSA) Scheme .Then ,even I don’t work ,I will have money every month. This kind of idea may spread to their children,so their children will not work too.
    Also,they may marry and have babies in Hong Kong, their babies is going to use the hospital and the school that is made by government.So,ourHong Kong natives will compete for the resources with the domestic helpers.

    2D(28)

  12. I don’t agree that the domestic helpers should be given the right of permanent residency. It’s because there will be a large number of domestic helpers streaming into Hong Kong if they get the right. It will increase the population in Hong Kong suddenly. As there is a problem of insufficient lands in Hong Kong already, this will increase the burden of the lands in Hong Kong and the housing problem in Hong Kong will be deteriorated. Besides, they will share the welfare with people who are born in Hong Kong. Therefore, the expenditure of medical allowances, twelve-year free education, Comprehensive Social Security Assistance…of Hong Kong government will increase too, which really cause great burdens to the government. Moreover, the competition of jobs and schools’ degrees will be increased. Then the unemployment rate and the stress of Hong Kong students will be increased also. These problems will lower the quality of the life of Hong Kong people. And actually it’s quite unfair to the people who live in Hong Kong originally since they have already paid for the tax in Hong Kong for a longer period of time. On the other hand, if they want to get the right of permanent residency, they must give evidences that they will treat Hong Kong as their permanent living places in the future. If they have family in their birthplace, they can hardly guarantee it. Therefore, Hong Kong government should give serious treatment and consideration towards this issue. In addition, I think it can request the domestic helpers to give some money for surcharge before getting this right which can pacify the agitating emotion of Hong Kong people.

  13. It’s somehow inhumane not to let domestic workers to stay in Hong Kong. I think that it’s reasonable to let domestic workers stay in Hong Kong, if they have a will to stay in Hong Kong forever as their homeland. To have a permanent residency of a place beside from a person’s homeland , it means that the person gave up their homeland and choose a new place as their new homeland. However, I doubt for the point of view of the domestic workers. After the Hong Kong High Court ruled that domestic workers can have the right to live in Hong Kong, the application of such cases suddenly rised sharply. It makes people think that they wanted to have the same social welfare as Hong Kong people and I think that they are not sincere to convince Hong Kong people that they have the will to live in Hong Kong forever. In conclusion, I think that it is not something wrong if domestic workers have the right to have the permanent residency of Hong Kong IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO CHOOSE HONG KONG AS THEIR HOMELAND FOREVER!

  14. I strongly oppose that the domestic workers should be given the right of permanent residency. Firstly, If they have the right of permanent residency, there will be a lot of domestic workers come to Hong Kong to apply for the residency. As a result, social welfare should be given to them, for example, the 12 years free education should be given to their children. This will be unfair to the local people because most of the domestic helpers do not need to pay taxes, but they can have the same welfare to us. Although somebody said that there will be the problem of discrimination on the domestic helpers, this case is different from the other foreigner who lived in HK for 7 years. The domestic helpers just work in HK, but not living in HK. Secondly, A sudden increase in population will cause a lot of problems on the distribution of resources. Such as competing for public houses and getting the CSSA, if more people come, the need is increased. So, the load of the government is increased. In the end, Hong Kong people will be affected. For the reasons mentioned above, domestic workers should NOT be given the right of permanent residency.

  15. I don’t agree that domestic workers should be given the right of permanent residency.If all of them have this right,firstly,the welfare of the poor,or even the residents in Hong Kong may be deprived.Secondly,there may have more people strive for one job,so,similarly,the welfare of the low income group may be affected.Thirdly,there may be more people competing for public houses,and lastly,the rights of the Hong Kong residents will be affected.Fourthly,there may be more students competing for schools as there will be some children of domestic workers,then the rights of the Hong Kong students may be affected.In conclusion,if domestic workers have the right of permanent residency,the welfare of residents in Hong Kong will be severely destroyed.So,I don’t agree with the above statement.

  16. I agree domestic workers should given the right of residency. Although they always block the street and affect our leisure time, they work hard for us and care our daily life. We should be gratitude for them instead of toeing the line to them. So that we need to give back the right to them .We should try to be thoughtful, to stand by their side, they just want to get a job and earn money for family living. They never have any rumblings. In fact, there must be some affects to Hong Kong people, such as the competition of jobs’ opportunity , the right of HKers and the lowest wage …SO to decided whether to give the residency , government play a very important character, it mainly rely on how the government to get a balance in this case. Last but not least, I think we should respect others’ right to form a fair society, and it can also build up a good national fame for HK.

  17. The case that started this debate seems to be over, with the high court finally ruling that because Ms. Gutierrez did not take “concrete steps” toward making Hong Kong a permanent home, she could not meet the requirements for permanent residency. The judge, however, did not give an example og what could be considered a concrete step.

    Article in the Hong Kong standard: http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=11&art_id=116955&sid=34415274&con_type=1

    The decision means that Hong Kong people no longer have to worry about a large influx of people from Southeast Asia.

    In the past, my home country, Canada, also took steps to minimize immigration from specific places, especially from China (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chinese_immigration_to_Canada). However, the Canadian government eventually decided to promote a policy of multiculturalism. I wonder if it would be better for Hong Kong to become more multicultural as well.

  18. In my opinion, I agree that the domestic helpers who have been living in Hong Kong for at least seven years have the right to apply for permanent residency. At the beginning, I have to admit that there is no domestic helper for my family. That’s why I do not have a really good concept about what do they have to do or what do they have to face at their “homes”. But according to my friends’ opinions on their domestic helpers at home, the below part is my opinions on this case.
    Firstly, some domestic helpers have looked after the required homes’ children since the children were born. That has a great influence on the children.
    Secondly, the domestic helpers are not only a helper for their required homes but the city. Especially in some big and busy cities- Hong Kong- the citizens always have to work from 9:00am till 5:00pm. However, back to their homes does not mean that they would stop working. Some of them work for even several hours even they had got home. That makes the Hong Kong citizens have no time to do housework or even take care of their own children. Therefore, domestic helpers have to take up heavy workload to the housework. Eventually, the domestic helpers have smoothed the working of the society.
    Lastly, the reason is that the domestic had given up looking after their own children in their own homes, leaving their husbands or parents to take up the responsibility. Some of them who are not married yet have to give up the time when they can study or marriage, in order to make money for their relatives in their hometowns. They have given up many times or even the whole life when they can live gaily to make a living.
    In a word, I think that the domestic helpers have given absolute dedication to Hong Kong. They have given the children whose parents are busying with their work all day long satisfied childhood. Also, they carried the heavy workload to do the housework which has smoothed the busy working system of Hong Kong. Lastly, they have given their time to make a living for their family in their hometowns and themselves.

  19. I don’t think it is a right decision to let domestic helpers apply for permanent residency.
    The sudden increase in population will cause a lot of problems on the distribution of recourses.
    Now, most of the helpers are living at their master’s house, if they become Hong Kong resident, they can have their own flat. They can also apply to live in public housing estates.Nowadays, Hong Kong housing problems are already in a grave situation. Many teenagers can’t buy a flat for themselves. Also, there are many people living in small sub-divided units. The domestic helpers will make the situation even worse.
    Besides, many of them are poor, they will become burdens to our society, the government needs to take care of them. This may lead to a great loss of money in the government and may effect our economic system in Hong Kong. They will also enjoy many welfares such as education and hospital services, etc. Is Hong Kong government ready to handle these problems? Definitely not. So we should not let the domestic helpers to become Hong Kong residents.

  20. I quite disagree that domestic workers are given the right of residency.
    We Hong Kong people should not offer such rights when we can’t take care of ourselves. Housing problems in Hong Kong nowadays are quite tough indeed, and people are unable to afford their houses, and the demand for public housing is immense. The permanent residency of domestic workers will greatly worsen the situations, and we will suffer from a direct impact.
    Besides, such rights will bring out difficulties on plenty of aspects, such as the need of educational and hospital resources, and they are actually competing with us to have better services. Also, a large amount of jobs are needed to fulfill the excess labour forces, this will increase the rate of unemployment, and the remains will have to life by the government’s assistance, and will consume a large number of money, that is going to be filled up by our own selves.
    I really hope that this preposterous law will soon be banned, otherwise, i’m sure it will affect our lives seriously.

  21. I disagree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.
    First, there are about 125,000 domestic helpers can get the permanent residency immediately. This will make employers need to pay minimum wage on them but most of them can’t afford. So, the domestic helpers who have lost their jobs can be able to rely on Comprehensive Social Security Assistance. This will lead to a big expenditure. Besides, if they can find jobs in local Job Market, many Hong Kong undergraduates or unemployed people will hardly find a job and cause to rate of unemployment rises in a large margin.
    Second, domestic helpers and their families can be eligible to apply for Public Rental Housing. Now, Hong Kong people have to wait for three years to apply for it. If the domestic helpers really apply for it, this will be awful.
    Third, the government needs to pay a very big amount in the educational expenditure if they have the permanent residency. Now, the hospital beds in public hospitals are a shortage. If they want to give birth to babies in the public hospitals, can you imagine what will happen next? I think you can.
    I never agree domestic helpers can be Hong Kong permanent residents. It’s a nasty idea because this will bring a lot of problems to the society.

  22. I strongly disagree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.

    First, if they can successfully strive for permanent residency. That means they can enjoy the social welfare of Hong Kong including apply for CSSA and public housing estate. It may cause economic pressure and great affliction to the society.

    Second, job market would be more competitive, but not only for slavish jobs only.As they can speak fluent English and have high education standard, They can also granted for a job with higher salaries(such as white collars, clerks etc.)The unemployment rate of local people will increased rapidly.

    The government should stay strong. Seeking for NPC interpretation is not the only way to solve the problem. We are the taxpayers, we should have rights to decide who is suitable for living in Hong Kong and share the social resources,

  23. I strongly disagree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.

    First, if they can successfully strive for permanent residency. That means they can enjoy the social welfare of Hong Kong including apply for CSSA and public housing estate. It may cause economic pressure and great affliction to the society.

    Second, job market would be more competitive, but not only for slavish jobs only.As they can speak fluent English and have high education standard, They can also granted for a job with higher salaries(such as white collars, clerks etc.)The unemployment rate of local people will increased rapidly.

    The government should stay strong. Seeking for NPC interpretation is not the only way to solve the problem. We are the taxpayers, we should have rights to decide who is suitable for living in Hong Kong and share the social resources,

  24. I don’t think that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency by the Hong Kong government.

    Firstly, although the domestic helpers have stayed in Hong Kong for over seven years, their main purpose is not staying in Hong Kong forever and bear children, but only want to get money for theirselves and their families.

    Secondly, since they are only domestic helpers and just work in Hong Kong for some years, I think they haven’t enough qualification to be given permanent residency.If the Hong Kong government gives permanent residency to them, they will get $6000 causeless. It will waste the taxpayers money as there are at least 223,394 domestic helpers in Hong Kong now. If I am poor and live in other countries, I must come to Hong Kong to do domestic helpers. I am sure that if the Hong Kong government gives permanent residency to them, more and more domestic helpers will come to Hong Kong .At that time, more problems will be brought and Hong Kong government will discover that giving permanent residency to them is a wrong decision. The situation can’t be controlled unless we don’t give permanent residency to them.

    Based on these two reasons, I strongly disagree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency

  25. Maybe there is something wrong with the concept of having a very large number of people from a different ethnic group being hired at low wages to serve others (and at the same time not enjoying the same rights as others).

    While growing up in Canada, I never met (or even heard of) any family having a full-time live-in helper, yet as NIcholas points out, there are nearly 300,000 helpers in this one city. I don’t think many Hong Kong people realize how strange the situation is.

  26. I strongly disagree with this suggestion.

    First, the domestic helpers can go into the open market of Hong Kong. Then, they can compete with local Homg Kong people for the jobs, other than domestic helper. Nowadays, many teenagers cannot get jobs easily. It is unreasonable to allow them entering into our job market.

    Second, it will be a great burden to our economy and health care system once they becomes permanent Hong Kong citizen. Our government has to provide placement, medical service, education and social welfares to them and their children. Without good planning, it is unwise to accept them as Hong Kong citizens.

    Third, it will set an example to the other third world countries, such as Indonesia and Nepol who are the main supplers of our domestic helpers. Their people can also apply for becoming Hong Kong citizens. Hong Kong people have not yet prepare to live with them harmoniously.

  27. I don’t think it’s appropriate that domestic helpers could be Hong Kong residents.First, there are 292,000 foreign domestic helpers here in Hong Kong. If the government also need to provide them all the social welfare all at a time, I think that the government can’t afford it.Also, they will also benefit from the minimum wage. So not only the government, even employers of domestic helpers will be surely affected.What’s worst, they can compete with locals for applying jobs, greatly influencing the labor market.Second, according to basic law, they must be “ordinarily resided” which if they are working as a domestic helper here in Hong Kong, they definitely don’t fulfill this requirement as they should be living in their employers house.
    Based on this two reasons, I don’t think it’s a good idea giving permanent residency of Hong Kong to foreign domestic helpers.

  28. I don’t think that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency by the Hong Kong government. Firstly, according to the Basic Law, they are not allow to be the permanent residents after they have work in Hong Kong for 7 years or more. It is because they are just working and gained the money for their family. The thing that we need to give them for their hard work is their earnings but not permanent residency. Secondly, they don’t have anything in Hong Kong ( e.g. family,house etc ). Therefore,the government need to spend more money on helping them like giving them the benifits. However, I don’t think that the government have such a large amount of money to help them on the policy. There are many social and economic problems in Hong Kong right now. If the government need to spend more money on them, Hong Kong people maybe annoyed that the domestic helpers could get the same benifits as them. Hong Kong people may get less benifits from the policy of the government and the domestic helpers may be discriminated because of the anger of the Hong Kongers. So, more and more social problems will appear in Hong Kong.
    Therefore,I think domestic helpers should not be given permanent residency.

  29. I think domestic helpers should not be given permanent residency . First, it might increase the government’s expenditure because the domestic helpers who have permanent residency may aply for the CSSA. They will bring Hong Kong Government more medical treatment expenses. I think the domestic helpers have no contribution to our society. They are not Hong Kong people or Chinese people. They may not want to protect and contribute Hong Kong.The finance of Hong Kong is not so good now. If we need to bear the domestic helper’s spending, we may become unable even to fend for oneself too. It will waste taxpayers’ money too. Therefore I think domestic helpers should not be given permanent residency.

    1. Certainly, there would be expenses. However, there might also be some benefits. As permanent residents, they might start getting better jobs and paying taxes. They would spend in Hong Kong, helping local companies. Their children would go to school (solving the problem of falling school enrollments).

      One drawback you didn’t mention is that they would take some jobs away. For example, quite a few domestic helpers are university graduates and might like a better job. They will compete with Hong Kong graduates. Unemployment would likely rise.

      There would be also a huge change in HK’s culture (I don’t know if that would be a good or bad thing). If the courts decision is upheld, Hong Kong will be a very different place in a few years.

  30. I don’t agree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency. The first reason is according to Basic Law, a person shall not be treated as ordinarily resident in Hong Kong while employed as a domestic helper from outside Hong Kong. Also, domestic helpers are obliged to live with their employers and not allowed to maintain their own households and even bring their families to Hong Kong. We need to obey the law and it shows that domestic helpers should not be given permanent residency. The second reason is if they are given permanent residency, Hong Kong’s economy will be affected and the government’s expenditure will be increased because the government needs to use more money to provide subsidies for domestic helpers and Hong Kong residents. Based on these two reasons, I don’t agree that domestic helpers should be given permanent residency.

    1. Though you raise many good points, it is a little odd when you write: “We need to obey the law”. Isn’t the High Court the main body in Hong Kong responsible for interpreting the law? Therefore, wouldn’t obeying the law mean that we should obey the court’s decision that domestic helpers should NOT be restricted from applying for permanent residency?

      To me this seems like the main point in the debate. On the one hand, you have the High Court stating that the restrictions are unlawful. On the other hand, you have the government,media and probably the majority of Hong Kong people people stating that removing the restrictions would cause great inconvenience.

      The last time this happened (concerning the right of abode of children on the mainland born to Hong Kong residents), the HK government had Beijing overrule the decision of HK’s Court of Final Appeal). Would you support the idea of Beijing overruling the decisions of Hong Kong’s judiciary once again?

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